What Makes a SUCCESSFUL Live Action – Avatar, Last of Us, Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, One Piece & TWD

What Makes a SUCCESSFUL Live Action - Avatar, Last of Us, Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, One Piece & TWD
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Today at the Mystery Shack, we deep dive into the many good (and not-so-good) live-action adaptations stemming from comic books, video games, and anime. We look at Avatar The Last Airbender movie, HBO’s The Last of Us, The Walking Dead, Death Note, and Cowboy Bebop to see what made them succeed or fail and apply that to predict how the upcoming adaptation of One Piece, Avatar (again) and Death Note (again) will fare.

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Further reading & links:
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https://comicbook.com/anime/news/guillermo-del-toro-anime-adaptation-monster-live-action-hbo/

Here’s Why We Didn’t Get a Steins;Gate Live-Action Show

‘Sword Art Online’ to get Netflix Live Action Treatment From ‘Altered Carbon’ Creator


https://www.vulture.com/2010/06/the_walking_dead_author_robert.html
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/death-note-adam-wingard-teases-films-shocking-ending/

The Duffer Bros’ Death Note: Everything we know so far

Every Video Game Adaptation Currently in Development

A Parade of Horrors: Every Upcoming Live-Action Anime Adaptation


https://comicbook.com/anime/news/steins-gate-anime-live-action-movie/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Netflix_original_films_(since_2023)#Upcoming
https://www.theverge.com/23800921/dear-david-twitter-thread-movie-trailer-release-date

CSM Manga vs Anime Panel Comparison EP 12
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The Walking Dead creator Robert Kirkman is suing AMC again


https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/12/21365329/avatar-last-airbender-netflix-live-action-michael-dante-dimartino-bryan-konietzko-departure
https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/netflix-death-note-series-from-stranger-things-creators-what-we-know-so-far/

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Timecodes
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00:00 – Introduction
01:09 – “All adaptations are bad” & Why adapt anything at all?
03:30 – The Most Vital Aspect of Adaptation – Tone & Vision
08:14 – Translate, do not copy… most of the time… And please respect the material
10:24 – The Ego Problem…
13:27 – So… Let’s Adapt Stuff
14:17 – The Good: The Last of Us
19:37 – The (Mostly) Good: The Walking Dead
27:25 – The Bad: Death Note 2017
33:15 – The Ugly: Cowboy Bebop
36:51 – So… What does this mean?
38:37 – Upcoming Adaptations: One Piece, Avatar, Death Note
43:12 – One Piece & Avatar – A MAJOR Turning Point for the Industry
45:50 – Outro

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  1. While I have accepted that the walking dead TV show is popular and more well known than the comic, I am not a fan of the show and feel it butchered the source material. Sorry but what the show did to Andrea was such a disgrace that I just could keep watching.

    But it's a matter of opinion.

    Now I do think anime to live action adaptations could work, yet Netflix has botched two of the easiest sources to adapt. Death Note was a softball. Cowboy Bebop, a little more difficult but still should have worked. Given the episodic nature of Cowboy Bebop they even had the freedom to take their own stories, if they were good.

    I have no hope for the One Piece adaptation. If it ends up being so bad it's good, I will be happy because I can't see it being genuinely good. I will see that the cast and crew of One Piece seem to know and like the manga but I still doubt it will be good. Even with Oda praising it.

    Maybe I will be proven wrong. Maybe One Piece won't suck.

  2. Having the original creator deeply involved in the adaptation is often critical for an adaptation's success, for example (in addition to The Last of Us of course) The Expanse and Silo are IMHO excellent.

  3. Watching this gave me an idea of an adaptation of death note but instead it’s a detective thriller about the cult of the death note where they try and find some super slippery cult that worships the death note but can never be caught. That sounds fun

  4. I really don't have much faith in the One Piece adaptation, it does have Oda's… Blessing? Or whatever but the goofyness alone is a roadblock hard to overcome, at least we have cool moments like Iñaki meeting Oda, but it's really hard to believe it will only make the necessary changes.
    Other than that YEAH, I AGREE, THERE'S LITERALLY MONSTER THERE SITTING AND WAITING TO BE DONE IN LIVE ACTION, IT'S LITERALLY PERFECT FOR THE FORMAT AND ANIME HAS ALREADY TRANSLATED IT ALMOST PERFECTLY, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG OR BE THAT HARD

  5. I still think arcane has had the best adaptation of anything so far although tbf it's not exactly a carbon copy of lol so I imagine it doesn't count to some and if you ask players is actually an improvement in their case since league lore is somehow both barely there and all over the place.

    Still I definitely remember people holding it up as "THE ONE THAT BROKE THE VIDEO GAME CURSE" Detective Pikachu kinda had that but arcane is the one everyone points too.

    I'm looking forward to one piece and I really hope it pulls it off.

  6. A lot of the good adaptations youre giving as examples are books. Books have a much different reception when adapted to live action than anime. Way less people read books and the majority of the audiences are experiencing it for those stories for the first time. Anime is already a show so it comes with way more expectations

  7. Speaking of Netflix Live Action.
    People need to watch Alice in Borderland.
    Like that is currently the successfully good Live Action Anime/manga Netflix has produced thus far.
    Yet people probably watched the Bad Netflix Death Note and Cowboy Bepop more than Alice in Borderland.

  8. every time I read Gods of Bronze (which is an ongoing book series) I can just see the scenes in my head as a killer dark action / drama series, especially since it takes place in the early bronze age, which is like very underrepresented in media, and has strong ties to powerful fundamental mythological tropes that makes the story strong even through the rooted tradition of stories it is in the same vain as.

    Also I think it would be a good way to educate the masses on bronze age history, with the agricultural revolution, the spread of metal working for the first time, and the massive violent invasions from the western Eurasian steppe into Europe that was the direct cause of most modern European ethnicities existing at all, as well as how the ancient mind thought, and strong honor / martial, and family traditions of these ancient people.

    plus bad ass demigods kicking demonic ass

  9. I'm still against the one piece mive action bc I feel that the goofie illustrations of oda are a core part of one piece and already disrespecting the sourcematerial.

    The walking dead and last of us work so well is bc their source material already look realistic enough to translate into live action. And book adaptations like lord of the rings don't have a lot of visual language where the adaptor have more freedom of translation than a comic or manga.

    I think that live action anime adaptations could work but only for the shows that feel realistic like monster, berserk, haikyuu and many more.

  10. The biggest thing that I feel is important is if you don't like the original work, keep your grubby hands off it! Looking at The Witcher writers and producers, here.

    As far as the name changes for Avatar the Last Airbender, the movie version actually pronounced Aang the way a native to Tibet would pronounce it. However, it's jarring for the long-time fans to change how the beloved characters pronounce things. That's not really the worst thing M. Night Shamburger did.

  11. I started watching one piece because of the live action teaser, I knew so little that I was suprised to see luffy stretch !

  12. We need to show more appreciation for animation, when I watch an anime like my spy family I see no way to make it live action without it being corny. The exaggerating certain personality traits and quirks just can't be translated in live action

  13. The Cowboy Bebop really hurt me. I thought if given a second season it could had improved on it obviously faults. But the backlash was instant and overwhelming

  14. This video deserves millions of views as the majority of the people just lack nuance in their opinions about live action adaptations and thereby analyse why many failed… While few succeeded. Instead people just blatantly hate the term "live action" itself without any proper thought behind their opinion.

    And the bad adaptations also didn't help in this case, by just fueling that hatred further.

    And thus, almost everyone forget decent to good or great live action adaptations and only focus on the objectively bad ones that failed.

    This video spells out analytically how and what are the reasons for an adaptation to suceed or fail and its not all good or all bad. It's all in the vision, implementation – translate but not remake : by making necessary changes to fit the medium and leverage the advantage of live action as a medium to compensate for the loss of freedom, level of suspension of disbelief present in the animation medium; having respect for the source material, keeping the tone/vibes and retaining the heart of the original, talented movie makers to bring it to life with their vision and skills and lastly guidance and supervision of the original author on the adaptation project.

    Typically, Japanese adaptations often try to replicate everything to the T and that makes them look like cosplayish, cheap, campy… And the low production value and budget doesn't help them.

    And Typically, Hollywood adpatations have great visuals (not all), but lack the soul, heart of the original. They either make unnecessary changes that totally change the core of the source material, which the fans loved it for originally. Or they just replicate it but lose all the nuance and depth, at the end the adaptation turning out to be a shell of its original … cough GH..ST IN THE SH…LL…. Cough.

    But there sure is a specific reason for each of the adaptations to fail, but not all of them are bad (as a standalone show and/or as an adaptation).

    There is specific reason that most of the live actions are bad… And that reason is not same for all of them… As most of them if they do well in one aspect they screw up in another.

    Just like Japanese ones have bad CGI and production value and costumes… But the respect for the source material is there… However, they r too closely imitating the anime.

    The western ones in general have good CGI and production values, but majority of them screw up in the script or writing or even screw up the plot and characters.

    However that being said being more loyal to the source material and imitating it is also not the perfect way to go about… As it will look cringe in live action medium.

    So, there has to be a balance where the essence, feel, vibes, the characters and their motivations are kept as much loyal to the original, however changes have to be made in the dialogues, writing, story, Visuals etc.. to extract maximum out of a screen using the unique advantages of the live action as a medium.

    Alita the Battle angel, Rourouni Keshin, Speed racer are the best example for that. Even the 2006 Death note TV series is pretty good for a live Action adaptation.

    Exact one to one imitation is not the way .. but even straying too far away from the original but at the same time, trying to look similar to the original with the same character names but everything is diff about them is also not the way.. (Netflix Death note movie).

    Another good way to adapt is the route of Edge of Tomorrow… Where they took the concept and made their own story, without trying to be the original.

    And of course another major issue with adaptations is whether they are making them as a TV series or a movie. Not all stories suit the movie format. Some needs to be made in TV series format to get a decent adaptation.

    The dialogues may be little corny in live action especially for something like one piece, but as long as the vibe is matching with the world they are creating and is consistent, it should work… As a standalone material… But one should not see it as an anime adaptation, but see it as a standalone material.. without comparing it… Because as long as the story, emotions, world, fantasy elements and characters are compelling, new people will bound to try it out and like it… irrespective of whether it's exact remake of it or not.

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    One everyone should understand is that The purpose of live action is to bring the beloved story to general mainstream audience by suceeding to capture audience as a standalone show, and be additional content of their fav story in a different form for the original fanbase ro consume… and certainly NOT to replace the original.
    Moreover, The fans also do their unwarranted gatekeeping. The creators also do something stupid on their whim, without actually analysing why many live actions are actually failing… And then try to rectify the situation methodically.

    And as far as I saw, Matt Owens of one piece live action TV series did go in a methodical way to tackle the problem and strick the balance between making the necessary changes n not imitating the original but not taking it so far away that it's unrecognisable… But tries to be similar to the original unlike Netflix Death note. And with Oda being the navigator for the ship and Matt Owens at the helm, there is a lot of hope.

  15. To me, the difficulty of adaptation often comes down to what it’s being adapted into. The Last of Us for instance has a lot going for it, as many have derisively called it movie already. In fact, I saw plenty of criticism of the show for just doing what the games already did. It was an adaptation of audio visual media with a grounded aesthetic into another piece of audio visual media with grounded aesthetic.

    That’s why the changes and expansions, such as with Bill, I think are warmly received as it’s adding wrinkles to a narrative.

    I get why people want the cool or memorable moments from the originals to be adapted, but I also don’t really feel that comfortable when people praise something for just doing it again beat for beat.

    Anyway, I agreed with most of the video.

  16. im so mad that we for some reason cant make death note a proper live action tv series it is probably the only anime that can be made into a live action show that would be better than the original but for some reason they keep making fucking movies that suck ass why

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