We Could Lose Yamaha AND Honda feat. Jeremy McWilliams | Crash MotoGP Podcast Episode 88

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Grand prix winner Jeremy McWilliams joined Keith Huewen as a special guest on this week’s Crash.net MotoGP podcast.

Huewen is in Northern Ireland to commentate on this week’s North West 200 road race, where McWilliams, at the age of 59, is competing in the Supersport and Supertwin classes.

But McWilliams is best known for his grand prix exploits, carrying the flag for the UK in the 250cc, 500cc and MotoGP classes from 1993-2004, when he celebrated six podiums, three pole positions and one win.

Alongside his vast racing experience, the Ulsterman also does R&D and brand development work for KTM.

McWilliams was quizzed by Huewen, Crash.net’s Pete McLaren and podcast host Harry Benjamin on topics such as the Austrian factory’s impressive MotoGP form after a slow winter, the penalty controversy at Jerez, the influence of aerodynamics, plus the floundering fortunes of Yamaha’s Fabio Quartararo and Honda’s Marc Marquez.
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  1. you have to remember racing sells bikes, and ducati, aprilia, KTM are hard sells, one the money, 2 generally under powered, 3, very hard to work on, 4 maintenance hogs.. whats going on here is the same thing that went on in SBK 20 years ago when the big 4 pulled out because the aspiration rules favored the Vtwins, dornas excuse was because they at a disadvantage due to their nature in design..

    V4s have tons of torque but have a hard time keeping up with an inline simply die to the nature, I can guarantee you the V4s are getting some sort of rule advantage to have that kind of HP advantage, its not built in to either design, whether it be a Vtwin or V4.. to sell bikes they favor them in the rules somehow, electronics, aspiration, some how, imma guess the ducati has a good 20-25hp more than any inline, and KTMs obviously get to take advantage of any V4 build spec as well..

    if you don't think they have advantage look at SBK and what bike wins big every race, the ducati, with a mid packer on the seat,.. so .. Suzuki is pretty savvey they wont pull out if they figure they have a chance.. like the big 4 withdraw in SBK years ago Suzuki just got out before they wasted a lt of money, these bikes are capped out in every way, they are at the limit in every way and Suzuki knows this, so why develop a bike where you wont have a chance due to HP advantages given to certain builds?

    Yamaha could go with an offset crank in their offset crank config, after all they did develop the offset crank config… take back that HP advantage and hand the races back to the riders, best guess? dorna wont allow it as they know yamaha will be back to selling more bikes, very very political this level of racing is.. the trickle down effect…

  2. The “standardized ECU” done on 2016 killed the Japanese factories, it was a way Dorna found to give a fair shot to Ducati. That was a low blow and it put MotoGP technology back 7-8 years back…..

  3. I don't see Yamaha or Honda going anywhere, but it would be nice to see connections if the swap to a v4 just till they get the bike competitive. It's only going to better our sport. Look at how many Honda and Yamaha fans that are totally bummed after FP2 when they know their favorite manufacturers is going to be fighting for 15th place. You never see then the whole race unless they crash out. Something has to change.

  4. Great show mates, good to hear Jeremy's opinion. I 100% agreed with him there should've been no penalties in Jerz. I seen nothing outside of race. It's gotten so awful that when Brad rubbed up against Marc this week my first thought was here come a penalty. They gotta let these boys race. If you T-bone some you or jump the start or take a guy out on porpoise the rest is just hard racing.

  5. Yamaha and Honda can't keep up with the Ducatis because of the amount of money VAG has spent on the team. They are not willing to spend the same vast amounts on motogp.

  6. " who gets the Best Parts First"
    I seem to remember this was an Issue
    around 1984 with Barry Sheene
    & Keith Huewen .In the Suzuki Team

  7. Guys if you are saying about yamaha and Honda not in motogp then Ducati and other brands should not be there in motogp ..after 2007 they win 2022. untill 2021,2022,2007 its between yamaha and honda since 2000 to my 2023. come on guys one can not be on top always . And this is cycle . yes honda and yamaha are struggling but sure they will come back soon. And remember they been taken some tech they are advanced for long time. ferrari's last win is 2007/2008 in f1. so do you meen they have to exit ?

  8. Brilliant listening/viewing with Jezza. Love it when you get gusts in for a chat, you always seem to get more than expected out of them. More please.

  9. I love Jeremy but with sprint races we're heading for season ending injuries and, God forbid, career ending injuries because the speeds involved makes 'rubbing' ie contact potentially more damaging and having a worse outcome.
    I've no doubt if we reduce speeds and corner speeds to 2000's then contact won't be as potentially catastrophic…however look at Marquez and how his zero respect style is now making him a 3 to 5 crashes every weekend and, now riders aren't getting out his way and AREN'T buying into 'let me through or there's contact' passes then we're getting more incidents, more injuries and potentially a ticking clock for a really serious outcome for a rider.

  10. Classic! Keith 'The Brain' Huewen "How do (Red Bull*) KTM manage to spend so much money?"🤡🍌🤣🤣😂
    No, stop. You're killing me, sides splitting…😲🤣😂🤣😂

    *Red Bull air racing World series, red bull soapbox races, red bull deep sea diving, red bull F1, red bull envelope opening world series…cont ad infinitum

  11. Yamaha are doing better than Honda in the last 3 years across the motorsport world as a whole. However the Europeans have stolen a march on the Japanese in both MGP & WSBK. JW99 said what a lot of people are thinking or wishing about both FQ20 & MM93 could be like on another Bike other than their current options. Anyway good Podcast keep them coming please. 👍👍

  12. If the MotoGP bikes continue to have faster corner speeds because of the aerodynamics, then they will not be able to race at the usual circuits because of the lack of run off. If they were removed, along with most of the electronics then yes, they would be unrideable but not for long, the technicians would soon reduce the power accordingly. The way they are going it will be as Phil Read said, a monkey could do it. What's next automatic braking & throttle opening. I'll stick to watching real racing in Moto 3.

  13. If Fabio (and Franky) was not able to develop a bike he would have never won even a single race…despite the known inferiority of Yamaha he managed to almost win the championship even in 2022. The problems of Yamaha have their roots at least 7-9 years ago already… Now it's way clearer because the other manufacturers have done a massive step forward (Ducati since a while, KTM has an "aggressive" development strategy from Red Bull, as we have seen in F1 as well), while Yamaha is stuck to their conservative approach. You can be a great rider (as Fabio is) but you can make fire only with the pieces of wood you have, and if you have little, what you can do?…

  14. Imagine being some hotshot kid racer, won a few races, maybe even a few pro races in smaller classes. You are pretty fast, maybe the fastest in your area and you have a high opinion of yourself. Then this soft-spoken pensioner named Jeremy shows up and kicks your butt.

  15. Rossi publicly commenting on a possible switch to Yamaha for the VR46 team in '25 is interesting. Ducati is easily the best package and his rider was leading the championship and may again.

    Two thoughts if Rossi moves to Yamaha
    1. Yamaha definitely staying with a competitive package (on paper). He would not burn a bridge with Ducati if he was unsure.
    2. Yamaha desperately needs Rossi and his two bikes. Rossi holds all the leverage unless Ducati starts getting greedy to lease their bikes.

  16. I don't think you can blame Quartararo or Morbidelli about Yamaha's situation. Rossi and Viñales were complaining about the same things from all the way back in 2019 or so. Lorenzo before them too.

  17. Quality that one, with the added wisdom of McWilliams explaining the whys an reasons. Can other experienced ex riders be involved in some future episodes. ?

  18. Mr. McWilliams is 100% correct, we need different manufacture all on the same level, without electronics and aerodynamics, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Aprilia, Ducati, Yamaha and Honda with a factory team with a satelite team, – we need to see Binder Miller Oliveira Pecco, Fabio, Marc ext to race elbow to elbow.

    It is because of the lack of pace at Honda and Yamaha, that Marc and Fabio is taking huge risks – hence the crashes and negativity.

  19. Make your mind up Keith, first of all when Yamaha announced Fabio as their rider, you and all the BT commentators said Yamaha were making a massive mistake, huge mistake, think you wanted Bradly.
    Then is was genius this guy was outstanding and someone in Yamaha knew what they were doing

    Now according to you Fabio “just lucked out” he can’t develop a bike now it’s not working
    Would you say the same about Marc Marquez as Honda are in the same position
    The European Manufacturers have taken bike development in such a different direction the Japanese have been left blind sided and are miles behind
    Ducati couldn’t get a (normal) bike to be competitive nor could Aprilia so had to do something radical and here’s where we are today

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