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Today I sat down with someone who tested something all martial artists are curious about… whether what they train will work in a real-life altercation.
At an EDM festival in late 2024, Cleve was involved in an altercation that led to him using his jiu jitsu training to subdue the assailant. In this video, we break down the encounter and discuss where things went wrong, and where they went right.
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You have a purple belt with no fight experience with a youtube channel. Hilarious
its crazy where i live even if someone broke in and i beat them up, they can charge me for assault even if they broke into the spot thats supposed to be a safe place for my family and I. I find it pretty unreal.
I'm a no-stripe white belt (but I did train for 2-3 years) and have taken a knife out of someone's hand 3 times over a decade as a bartender. WTF were you doing on that show?! If someone has a weapon you two on one-wrist control the hand holding it. Pulling guard or trying to hip toss someone with a knife is CRAZY.
God willing that he will get all the proper medical and health treatment and support that you need to make a full recovery and to be fully recovered and back in good shape and back to being physically mentally sibling OK and fully all in 100% healthy and in good health and and Info, fully healthy and back in good shape and back to being physically and mentally stable and OK now
Respect to how he handled it but I can't shake the idea when I saw this a while back it him bringing a MAGA flag to a EDM festival/rave of all places to get a rise out of people. Not saying that's what led to the drugged out dude to being aggressive but if your ragebaiting for funsies idk how you hold yourself off camera. And the comments consisted of people questioning the idea of bringing one and yeah.. stereotypical responses back.
Bjj will get you killed in a street fight period
The only way this could've been better is if you interviewed the guy that was on drugs as well (assuming he's now sober and still alive).
Am learning MMA soon
Why train bjj when every option is cooler it had practical uses but in sparring it’s lame ash
Sweet video bro thanks homie
Wushu for weapon training/disarm, Goyu Ryu karate for the rest so far no problems on street for me, and i dont agree police should never be taught Martial arts tbh… any master teachin them is no master.. Police people are to powerhungry in first place, not all ofc but u got em there, and in usa tbh… some are litterlal cowboys in my country alot of them wouldve been locked up for handling situations whrong alot of the time from what ive seen online ofc so prolly not the full scale picture but yeah stil imagine they knew martial arts aswel.. no thanks
lol, Is fighting one guy in a group of friendlies a real street fight? How do you bjj more than one opponent?
You will end up dead relying solely on bjj in a street fight, it is not designed for fighting outside of a gym.
It really comes down to who your fighting, all knowledge can play out, I find the most important thing is muscle memory, when technique becomes instinct.
He's also a wrestler and that will help you more in the streets!
He seems like a punk to me… If he didn't have mma or bjj, etc, he would have never gone there, but hey, this is why we train, so we can go to raves, and deescalate anything 🤪
Of course he had something resembling a Burger King crown
The real problem is EDM 🤣
for that mma guy that broke his hand that sucks
Do not think bbj is the answer to street fighting, in my area here in the uk the second you hit the floor and you are still conscious you are going to get your heads kick in by the friends it the most dangerous place to be is the floor someone telling you that its the ultimate is bullshiting you and has no experience in street fighting 😮😮
Kinda gay being out at an event shirtless unless it is at the beach or a pool….
to my knowledge, California doesn’t have mutual combat laws. (Someone more knowledgeable than I, please feel free to comment. I’ve only been out here a few years.)
Giving a seminar while in a confrontation as white belt is crazy work.
Lol white belt reactions
Yooo that's Cleve waters, mr gtr 💪🏽💪🏽🇵🇭
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He is clearly using this situation to promote himself and improve his own image, while deliberately ignoring what actually happens in the footage and the broader context of the incident. Instead of engaging with the real events shown in the video, he selectively reframes them in a way that serves his personal narrative.
It should also be stressed that throws and immobilizations are not unique to any single system. They exist in virtually every combat or self-defense framework. Presenting them as something exceptional or exclusive is therefore misleading.
Moreover, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is, first and foremost, a sport. As such, it is optimized for competition under specific rule sets, not for real-world violence. In fact, when it comes to throws, BJJ is actually exceptionally weak compared to many other systems, particularly those that place a strong emphasis on stand-up grappling and takedowns.
Real street fights are mostly who’s willing to be more violent and who’s willing to strike first. Yes there are other factors but if a fight is about to happen you gotta be willing to strike first and make sure it counts. Call it a cheap shot if you want but it’s a street fight
Im a blue belt bouncer that has a very similar story. I was forced to choke a guy out in order to get away from him and save my coworkers from being attacked. Nobody got seriously hurt and all 3 of them where arrested, however I have scars from him biting my arm while I was controlling him. I also think my guy was on drugs because he growled like a dog while he bit me. And yes, its all on film haha. @Josh Beam BJJ
In the modern world, don't be naive to engage in a fight, even if you know Jiu Jitsu.
You cannot trust that the person won't have a weapon + they could have friends that could get involved.
It's all well and good submitting one person until their friend comes along and kicks you in the head.
You're very vulnerable in these situations.
Always just do your best to avoid the fight and leave the area.
That was riveting AF. See jiu-jitsu works IRL! Can’t get over the cop telling Cleave to just keep holding the guy down. Next-level control.
Dont ever street fight just eaty,sleepy,trainy and repeat😊
BLACK FATIGUE
Where is the kimura grip again?
Realistically you don't want to be on the ground in a jujitsu match in a crowd of people. I've seen people eat steel toed biker boots and ended up in the ER having their dinner through a IV for two weeks!
Purple belt bjj isn't good in a street fight, Judo is
"I stopped being ego-ist"
– he films himself reducing a non-trained guy between 2 , explaining the move as if he is an expert, and he es a white belt…
typical white-belt that trains a year and he thinks he is the man… he doesnt event know what to really do to a person that was put to sleep with a mata-leao.. this white belt is dangerous..
In High School my friend trained with Royce prior to UFC 1. We got jumped by a tagger crew at a party, he pulled guard and got stomped, he did bite one of them severely before losing concussions. My drunken ValeTudo aka throwing Liddel style bombs was much more effective but to be fair I was big for my age. Anyways point being, dude don't go to the ground.
He’s right, trained fighters don’t generally seek fights. The mindset shift comes with getting whooped multiple times a week by people that actually like you.
These practitioners are never street-smart nor ever lived in the inner city (my same criticism of the Ultimate Self-Defense Championship). All this polite stuff makes you a target. I carry EDC tools, and I'm not being nice — especially with drugged out schmuck. Living in Baltimore and in Philadelphia, I'm taking it to a 100 so I can survive and quickly exit.
I think jujitsu can work in a street fight. But this situation is a really poor example. The kid who was subdued, was totally whacked out on drugs, and surely was physically impaired with slow reaction times. The very first move, Cleve sneaks up behind the guy while he's engaged with Zed and puts a choke hold from behind. Anyone with one hour of instruction could do that, and only shows effectiveness of a sneak attack, nothing more. After that it devolves into a two-against-one fight against the drugged out kid. I'm not impressed at all.
Bro, you make a video about BJJ in a street fight and pixel out the most relevant parts? WTF?
I'm concerned about the potential for a backwards headbutt at t=477. I had my nose broken that way once, when someone was just thrashing around